but it's chrysler and gm pointed out, jeep which is a chrysler brand and gm also producing autos in northern ohio aren't shrinking their production they are expanding it. so the obama campaign believes they have the facts and narrative on their side, talking to senior romney advisers last night they don't regret making the charge but they didn't anticipate the intensity of the obama reaction and the echo chamber that it's created in the free media, the publicity around it. >> that's interesting. let's talk about some of these state polls. they show obama waleed in wisconsin, new hampshire and iowa. and he has a five-point lead in ohio. you've been talk being to team obama, his top officials. what do they make of these numbers? >> i was in chicago two days ago and they are confident about the president's ability to win re-election. that's a normal place for the obama campaign. they are never anything other than superconfident. >> over confident? >> the obama campaign know their voter contacts and if they cho what they know they will win. but if they know is wrong they will lose. if everything